Do you plan on voting for President Donald Trump in the 2020 election?

#1 · December 17, 2019, 9:16 am

Please use this space to explain your reasons for your 2020 vote.

#2 · December 20, 2019, 8:04 pm

I didn't in 2016 and I won't in 2020. I know he's a long-shot candidate - and I don't want to hear the "wasted vote" argument - but I like Andrew Yang more and more every time I hear him speak. Things that particularly resonate with me is his point that data is like the oil of the 21st century. We have these awesome devices, and it's hard to live in today's society without them, but it's bullshit that companies like Apple and Facebook are claiming ownership over my data willy nilly.

The other thing that makes sense to me about Yang's platform is his warning about automation. We know from history classes about how great the Industrial Revolution was for America and the world. But there are repercussions - displaced workers killed themselves or rioted, and it led to some mayhem. Not good. Why should the money saved from automation in industries like food service and truck driving, just to name two, go only to these insanely rich companies?

Yang bills his universal basic income proposal as the "Freedom Dividend" with the logic being that we're all shareholders in this great economy. If we're going to increasingly automate jobs - especially at a rate that dwarfs the Industrial Revolution - then why shouldn't the American people get a piece of that?

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#3 · January 4, 2020, 12:06 am

Quote from michael on December 20, 2019, 8:04 pm

I didn't in 2016 and I won't in 2020. I know he's a long-shot candidate - and I don't want to hear the "wasted vote" argument - but I like Andrew Yang more and more every time I hear him speak. Things that particularly resonate with me is his point that data is like the oil of the 21st century. We have these awesome devices, and it's hard to live in today's society without them, but it's bullshit that companies like Apple and Facebook are claiming ownership over my data willy nilly.

The other thing that makes sense to me about Yang's platform is his warning about automation. We know from history classes about how great the Industrial Revolution was for America and the world. But there are repercussions - displaced workers killed themselves or rioted, and it led to some mayhem. Not good. Why should the money saved from automation in industries like food service and truck driving, just to name two, go only to these insanely rich companies?

Yang bills his universal basic income proposal as the "Freedom Dividend" with the logic being that we're all shareholders in this great economy. If we're going to increasingly automate jobs - especially at a rate that dwarfs the Industrial Revolution - then why shouldn't the American people get a piece of that?

Despite some seemingly wild yet pragmatic ideas, Yang will sadly never make it. Biden seems like he's going to be the guy, which is not great for the left. Trump kinda nailed him on the "sleepy Joe" jab. The people want to be entertained and who better than an erratic compulsive liar to keep things interesting. BUT, money talks and Yang's dividend would bring out the democratic vote! IF he was the nominee, Yang could take it.

#4 · January 4, 2020, 11:29 am

Still not sure on that one. Most of the wisest people I know back Trump hands down. He makes me feel uneasy. This leaves me conflicted on the topic.

#5 · January 5, 2020, 5:10 pm

It's said that Americans vote with their dollars. My Obamacare insurance plan is nearly 1/3 of the price it was in previous years, which I do like. Hell, let him keep it going!

#6 · January 6, 2020, 6:38 pm

Quote from michael on January 6, 2020, 6:38 pm

Quote from Guest on January 4, 2020, 12:06 am

Quote from michael on December 20, 2019, 8:04 pm

I didn't in 2016 and I won't in 2020. I know he's a long-shot candidate - and I don't want to hear the "wasted vote" argument - but I like Andrew Yang more and more every time I hear him speak. Things that particularly resonate with me is his point that data is like the oil of the 21st century. We have these awesome devices, and it's hard to live in today's society without them, but it's bullshit that companies like Apple and Facebook are claiming ownership over my data willy nilly.

The other thing that makes sense to me about Yang's platform is his warning about automation. We know from history classes about how great the Industrial Revolution was for America and the world. But there are repercussions - displaced workers killed themselves or rioted, and it led to some mayhem. Not good. Why should the money saved from automation in industries like food service and truck driving, just to name two, go only to these insanely rich companies?

Yang bills his universal basic income proposal as the "Freedom Dividend" with the logic being that we're all shareholders in this great economy. If we're going to increasingly automate jobs - especially at a rate that dwarfs the Industrial Revolution - then why shouldn't the American people get a piece of that?

Despite some seemingly wild yet pragmatic ideas, Yang will sadly never make it. Biden seems like he's going to be the guy, which is not great for the left. Trump kinda nailed him on the "sleepy Joe" jab. The people want to be entertained and who better than an erratic compulsive liar to keep things interesting. BUT, money talks and Yang's dividend would bring out the democratic vote! IF he was the nominee, Yang could take it.

I wholly agree with you that I don't think Yang will be the one to get the nomination, and that's fine. When it comes to his ideas, he seems somewhat content on just getting those ideas out there. UBI (Freedom Dividend) is something that has really never come up in our political discourse. Now it has. If that's what you're for, than Yang's campaign has already been a success in a lot of ways.

Quote from Guest on January 4, 2020, 12:06 am

Quote from michael on December 20, 2019, 8:04 pm

I didn't in 2016 and I won't in 2020. I know he's a long-shot candidate - and I don't want to hear the "wasted vote" argument - but I like Andrew Yang more and more every time I hear him speak. Things that particularly resonate with me is his point that data is like the oil of the 21st century. We have these awesome devices, and it's hard to live in today's society without them, but it's bullshit that companies like Apple and Facebook are claiming ownership over my data willy nilly.

The other thing that makes sense to me about Yang's platform is his warning about automation. We know from history classes about how great the Industrial Revolution was for America and the world. But there are repercussions - displaced workers killed themselves or rioted, and it led to some mayhem. Not good. Why should the money saved from automation in industries like food service and truck driving, just to name two, go only to these insanely rich companies?

Yang bills his universal basic income proposal as the "Freedom Dividend" with the logic being that we're all shareholders in this great economy. If we're going to increasingly automate jobs - especially at a rate that dwarfs the Industrial Revolution - then why shouldn't the American people get a piece of that?

Despite some seemingly wild yet pragmatic ideas, Yang will sadly never make it. Biden seems like he's going to be the guy, which is not great for the left. Trump kinda nailed him on the "sleepy Joe" jab. The people want to be entertained and who better than an erratic compulsive liar to keep things interesting. BUT, money talks and Yang's dividend would bring out the democratic vote! IF he was the nominee, Yang could take it.

I wholly agree with you that I don't think Yang will be the one to get the nomination, and that's fine. When it comes to his ideas, he seems somewhat content on just getting those ideas out there. UBI (Freedom Dividend) is something that has really never come up in our political discourse. Now it has. If that's what you're for, than Yang's campaign has already been a success in a lot of ways.

#7 · May 30, 2020, 4:27 am

Donald Trump might just be the smartest person politically I've ever seen. He is is as Machiavellian as he is emotionally intelligent. He does lack in comprehension skills, but the way he navigates and compensates for this is innately impressive. He represents America quite well and knows how to use people's motivations to get what he wants. He's definitely someone you want on your side or you're going to suffer some bad consequences, or end up running in circles like he has ended up doing to the media.

Sometimes you need a spearhead to realize that is spear is a spear. There's nothing soft in his approach, but he opens the eyes everyday of people were wondering why the system has failed them. He truly is somebody who knows how to change the political game from something merely clinical to something more value-centric whether you are a die-hard Democrat or red-blooded Republican. He has simultaneously polarized and United America at the same time.

#8 · January 6, 2022, 9:17 pm

Quote from Guest on January 6, 2022, 9:17 pm
Yes I will vote. In my opinion the best way to get him voted in is to get a forum where we can expose the left. For example I would ask the question "What is the left so afraid of that their supporters block political discourse and response from conservative viewpoints? I would have conservative people responding to the lies sent in from the liberal lies spewed by the propagandist. In effect these people would ask questions about the violence allowed by ignorant leftist democrat leaders. I would ask with pictures why they did not try to convict and condemn the attacks in the same way they are the Jan 6 so called attack. Ask why their people ran conservative poll watchers away. What was the unbiased view of true vote security. I would do everything I could to establish the same type of bias the politically biased democratic news supporters did to taint Trump and the conservative voice. I know of several people including family and friends who listen to that and believe it like gospel. The more lies they hear about the same subject the more they believe. A news service would be better asking why Poor mindless Joe has pushed Covid issues that are now being shown to be non effective from people who are researching and not from agenda driven people. We are intelligent enough to show that all of this is just TO CONTROL them. ROKU has presented many shows that shows a long list of secret societies who have as their final fantasy/result that they will rule over the world. And as Stalin showed they are more than willing to remove those who oppose him. Thus they must first destroy the credibility of political leaders like Trump who will fight back. They will destroy all law that precludes them from squashing law. Lie about them, charge them with crime, and what ever they can lie, cheat, and deceive the weak mind. And yes we need to expose our own like we did Nixon to show that we truly want a free country filled by laws that are fair and not some unworkable agenda driven law.

Our elections must demand that every polling place requires poll watchers, maybe ballets that can not be printed except at printers who can not be bought, by poll watchers who will report problems, maybe even able to destroy the ability to use if not secured properly. Maybe verification markings that allow if the valid was properly printed. The how of some of this needs to be worked out.

Yes I will vote. In my opinion the best way to get him voted in is to get a forum where we can expose the left. For example I would ask the question "What is the left so afraid of that their supporters block political discourse and response from conservative viewpoints? I would have conservative people responding to the lies sent in from the liberal lies spewed by the propagandist. In effect these people would ask questions about the violence allowed by ignorant leftist democrat leaders. I would ask with pictures why they did not try to convict and condemn the attacks in the same way they are the Jan 6 so called attack. Ask why their people ran conservative poll watchers away. What was the unbiased view of true vote security. I would do everything I could to establish the same type of bias the politically biased democratic news supporters did to taint Trump and the conservative voice. I know of several people including family and friends who listen to that and believe it like gospel. The more lies they hear about the same subject the more they believe. A news service would be better asking why Poor mindless Joe has pushed Covid issues that are now being shown to be non effective from people who are researching and not from agenda driven people. We are intelligent enough to show that all of this is just TO CONTROL them. ROKU has presented many shows that shows a long list of secret societies who have as their final fantasy/result that they will rule over the world. And as Stalin showed they are more than willing to remove those who oppose him. Thus they must first destroy the credibility of political leaders like Trump who will fight back. They will destroy all law that precludes them from squashing law. Lie about them, charge them with crime, and what ever they can lie, cheat, and deceive the weak mind. And yes we need to expose our own like we did Nixon to show that we truly want a free country filled by laws that are fair and not some unworkable agenda driven law.

Our elections must demand that every polling place requires poll watchers, maybe ballets that can not be printed except at printers who can not be bought, by poll watchers who will report problems, maybe even able to destroy the ability to use if not secured properly. Maybe verification markings that allow if the valid was properly printed. The how of some of this needs to be worked out.